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Erykah Badu's goals are intentionally unreachable

Erykah Badu, Tiny Desk Concert, 2018
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Erykah Badu, Tiny Desk Concert, 2018

Erykah Badu is best known for her music career, but her resume is much more diverse than that. She's an actor, who can be seen now in The Piano Lesson. She's a doula, who helps welcome new life into the world. And she also helps guide people at the end of their life. She and Rachel talk about intentionally setting unreachable goals, letting go of certain thoughts, and space shuttles.

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Rachel Martin is a host of Morning Edition, as well as NPR's morning news podcast Up First.